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February 15, 2010
Hi Bill,
I've enjoyed reading your diary entries about recording at Guardian Studios, Pity Me, UK. I am currently researching information about Terry Gavaghan for a biography article and I'm particularly interested in finding a good picture of Terry at his studio. I recorded at Guardian with several bands in 1980-82 while doing session drumming work and found Terry quite a character and his studio a revelation. His was the only 24-track facility in the region at the time, it also had a quintessentially 1970s sound, with no ambience, but the gravity and compression of analogue 2 inch tape on his Studer machines.In reading mentions of Terry online, I was sad to see a reference to 'the late Terry Gavaghan' in an interview with Tim Jones of the band Neon:
'Returning to the subject of Treatment Room for a moment, after I had left the band they went on to release an excellent single in 1980 called "Awayday" with a B side called "Shapes" on Plug Records, based in Gateshead, Tyne & Wear. It was engineered by the late Terry Gavaghan. It was Terry in fact that engineered Neon's first single on Edinburgh's Sensible record label. I was also involved in other projects with Terry at his wonderful Guardian Studios in the little ex mining town called Pity Me in County Durham.
Terry was a well known studio engineer in the north east of England, a bit of a local legend. He had worked on so many of the definitive early punk/new wave releases that came out of the north east in the 1970s and 1980s. (Penetration & Punishment Of Luxury to name but two). He also did a lot of work for local television. He had an eight track mobile studio for a while too that meant bands could choose to record in their own environment as an option and it did the job of what would now be called Home Recording years before high quality domestic recording equipment was widely available. I remember both Terry and his assistant Keith as excellent people to work with.'I found a newer address for Guardian Music in Pity Me, as listed in 2004:
Guardian Music Company
Woodcroft Farm House
Abbey Road
Pity Me
Durham County
Durham DH1 5DGI then found a planning permission notice for this address in 2005, under new ownership. This would seem to indicate that Terry was gone by 2005.
I last saw Terry in Stockton on Tees, circa 1989, at Teesbeat Studios, where he was producing a session and looked quite drawn and had lost some weight. There seemed to be an indication of something amiss, simply by his being somewhere other than his own studio, though perhaps this was sold off by then. The output of Guardian Studios appears to end around 1985, going by online references to releases, sleeve notes, etc.
Your sessions, as described in your journal, capture the point at which Terry's studio was on the way up, pre-1980s, before he produced several successful singles by The Toy Dolls, Prefab Sprout, Incubus, et al. I'm particularly touched by the detail you included, such as the studio interruptions, the ghost story, the claims about studio instruments, Terry's work with The Carpenters, which are all familiar to me and anyone else who recorded there.
Terry mentioned his sound work for TV at the time, and said he used the name Terry Cavagin for this. As with all of Terry's claims, one could never be sure if they were an elaborate extension of his impish sense of humour, or if they were true. There are lots of references to a Terry Cavagin as a dubbing mixer for television programmes in the late 1970s and '80s, including a BAFTA Award in 1983 for the sound in 'Harry's Game' and credits on 'Follyfoot', 'Flambards' etc, which I remember him mentioning. These credits cease in 1989.
I read that you were looking for a scanning facility for your slides from the era. Hopefully you will find one at some stage. I have a USB negative/transparency scanner which I found in a photo shop a few years ago, which was not too expensive. I hope you can find a picture of Terry at his peak which we might include in his tribute.
Once again thank you for for sharing your music history, it's much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Graeme Robinson
Darlington, UK
www.myspace.com/circulationsound
On 15 Feb 2010, at 20:13, Bill and Sue-On Hillman wrote:
Many thanks for the great Gavaghan info, Graeme. I've finally purchased a slide/negative scanner which I haven't used yet . . . but I'll be sure to delve into the old UK slides to see if I have something on Terry that would be suitable. Mick Sandbrook of the band "Raised on Rusks" who was the bass player on our session might have some more info
Do you know if any other musicians experienced the appearance of the "ghost" in the studio?
We drove by the old Pity Me location two years ago returning from the Phil Collins' Tarzan Musical opening in Holland. . . brought back some good memories.
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Many thanks for your swift trans-atlantic response. I have attached my article, which I'm still drafting and is without a bibiography at present. Please feel free to reference, cut and paste away, with my warmest blessings.I indeed recall more than one spooky bright light related encounter in the studio, accompanied by much late-night atmospheric story telling, including the tale of the inexplicable re-appearance of the "Little Lake" or 'Petit Meer', from which Pity Me had taken its name. All fabulous stuff, and Terry was indeed a memorable character and I remember him fondly. Not realising he had passed, or knowing when, I can only say sometime between 1990 and 2005, is regrettable to say the least.
I'm still looking for the key birth/death dates and more early life information. Some of Terry's claims, both to fame and the provenance of his studio instruments, remain unclear but are tantalisingly possible. I can't find any firm reference to him playing lead guitar for The Carpenters. Tony Peluso is famously, and reliably, credited with the iconic Goodbye To Love solo, but then, I seem to remember Terry actually telling me this, when myself and a youthful band-mate inquisitively pressed him about it, circa 1982.
Glad to hear you have photo slide scanner in place. I bet you have the definitive photo document in your possession. I notice in a small pic of you and Sue-On at the console with Terry, that the Studer Machine was on the opposite side of the control room to where it later lived, in an open airing cupboard type of enclosure.
Cheers, aye, aha..
Graeme
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Graeme's further reflections on Terry G and his legacy.I drove past the Pity Me houses in recent times, too, while lecturing in sound recording at the nearby New College Durham, with its newly constructed ProTools studio and vintage Steinway grand piano, 'as played by Freddie Mercury' at Newcastle City Hall, from whence it came. The live room four times the size of Guardian, the control room still too small for comfort. It has zero atmosphere, zero vibes.
It's true that Terry's initial capital outlay on his professional studio equipment would have been considerable when setting up, together with the purchase of two terraced houses. His touring and session fees, maybe some broadcast dubbing studio work, must have produced some considerable money. The London auction purchases of the studio instruments circa 1979 all add up chronologically. Terry told so many stories, but I like to think however outlandish they were, they were all true.
Terry told us a story of how he, Keith Moon and Vivian Stanshall (of The Bonzo Dog Band), played outrageous Pythonesque practical jokes in London during the early 1970s. One such tale, 'The Gaberdine Trousers' involved Gavaghan entering the premises of an upmarket tailor, asking to see a pair of Gaberdine trousers. On these being produced, Stanshall would enter, exclaiming "Ah, Gaberdine trousers, I must have them!" and a fight would then ensue between the two, resulting in the pair of trousers being torn completely in two. At this point, with the salesman apoplectic, Moon would enter the shop on crutches, with one leg strapped up under his coat and a wooden leg. "Ah, one-legged Gaberdines!" he would cry, "I'll take them both!"
Terry's third Front Street house was probably that of the neighbour who often complained, until Terry finally purchased the house from her. I remember Terry showing us round the third house, which he intended as a residential rental option for studio clients, There was even an 8-track mini studio upstairs, which he offered as an alternative to the main studio, for DIY sessions.
Speculating, it may well be that Terry himself was forced to stop working from Front Street by the local council's response to local complaints about noise from the studio. The development of anti-social behaviour laws and noise abatement orders would have made the studio business an easy target for local government legislation. This may explain the move to the local farmhouse in around 1986, which may well have seen the original studio converted back into a family dwelling and all three homes sold off. There are no apparent references to a studio being built at Woodcroft Farm House and by 1986, there were also numerous new semi-pro studios springing up across the region, my own included.
The biggest threat to all the studios in maintaining recording business however, was the 'community recording studio' culture during the mid to late 80s, which arrived in many north eastern towns with high levels of unemployment, most notably Middlesbrough, Hartlepool and Sunderland. All of these offered free recording sessions to a broad customer base, thanks to being set up using local government and European grants for regeneration, negating the need to 'pay for the equipment' in the studio rates. The customers no longer needed to aspire to record, or engineer in a respected professional studio, the standards dropped, then the home recording revolution started.. and the rest is history.
It's good that you drove past Front Street again. There is a vibe radiating from the place still, in much the same way as there is from the site of Beatle homes, or the Cavern Club. And the ghosts, as they now must be plural, of Pity Me will be of the original 'studio ghost' and of Terry Gavaghan himself, his spirit imprinted into the walls like magnetic tape, light-tracing the outline of the drum booth, playing tricks on each other.
Warmest regards,
GraemeAh, just found this on Wikipedia - Vivian Stanshall
For all his problems, Stanshall never lost his sense of humour. In particular, his exploits with close friend Keith Moon are legendary, perhaps the most notorious involving Stanshall going into an unsuspecting tailor's shop and admiring a pair of trousers; Moon then came in, posing as another customer, admired the same trousers and demanded to buy them. When Stanshall protested the two men fought over them, splitting them in two so they ended up with one leg each. The tailor was by now beside himself but right then a one-legged actor, who had been hired by Stanshall and Moon, came in, saw the trousers and proclaimed "Ah! Just what I was looking for."[8]That's a pretty close match. The reference ^ Cited in Brewer's Rogues, Villains & Eccentrics, William Donaldson, 2002.It doesn't mention the reference to 'Gabardines', but... the hired actor.. ? I heard this story in 1982, direct from Terry himself.
Cheers,
Here's another variation of the same story:
Keith Moon & Vivian Stanshall
Trouser Testing
Vivian once told me that he and Keith Moon used to make surreal jokes for their own amusement. They would enter high-priced men’s clothes shops asking for a pair of strong trousers. Of course the keen to please sales assistant would find a pair robust trousers such as double elephant cords for them to try out and Moon would take hold of one leg while Vivian took the other. Then in a ferocious tug of war they would rip the trousers into two and throw the ruined pieces onto the floor in disgust and storm out of the shop complaining that the trousers were poor quality and lacked strength.Now Moon and Viv had a one legged friend who they would keep loitering around outside and after their departure this fellow would hop into the shop and up to the distraught sales assistant and politely ask for two pairs on one legged trousers.
March 6, 2010
Hi Bill and Sue-On,I've just heard the wonderful news that our old friend Terry Gavaghan is alive and well!
Olga, singer from The Toy Dolls, who I'd recently approached for a quote, asked around and has today sent this message:
I just spoke with Peter Monk, from EBGBs music shop in Durham, he sees Terry quite often, as he goes in the shop! Still involved with music, but doesnt have the studio.
This being the case, I will now seek the full story from Terry himself! Apparently Terry's son, John has also been contacted by Olga and has given him a contact number for Terry.
It appears my original source, Tim Jones of Neon, had only heard it through the grapevine, when he referred to Terry as 'the late' in an interview. Luckily, I hadn't gone public with the obit!
Reasons to be cheerful!
Kind regards,
Graeme![]()
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